Hi, when flying smaller (5" to 10") copters in fast forward flight, three-blade propellers are almost standard, because they produce less vibration. The most commonly accepted reason seems to be that with three blades, the oscillation of angle of attack of the blades in forward flight is more balanced than with two blades (where always one blade has a high angle of attack, and the other has a small angle of attack, producing vibration).
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But on larger copters, I still mainly see two-bladed props.
I recently built a custom 3-blade propeller hub for the T-motor MF propellers that we are using on our 5 kg, 18" quadrotor. I noticed some vibrations while flying at higher speeds in a large wind tunnel (video), and I thought that the 2-bladed props might be the reason.
And today I tested the new 3-blade setup, and I like it much better. I was flying the same auto mission with both setups. The mission is to oscillate several times between two waypoints at 30 meters distance with 5 m/s and with 7 m/s.
Vibrations decrease by a factor of 3, the power consumption is almost identical, the mean throttle drops. What is the reason that 2-blade props are so popular on larger drones…?
Edit: I accidentally flipped the labelling in the vibration table… Now it is correct. 3-blade has of course a much lower vibration level in forward flight.
You have raised an interesting topic because our props on multi rotors are operating as props were never intended to operate.
From a fixed wing perspective it is well tested that more blades is less efficient, where the prop directly faces the oncoming air flow.
The most efficient in this case is actually a single blade prop, and yes, they were a thing, although you don’t see them much anymore.
But considering the direction of airflow on multi rotors its a whole different story.
It would be interesting to hear if people have actually tested the characteristics of props in horizontal for ward flight.
Im just going down the same path. My copter has max power and hover time with 11"-2.
But i noticed with 10"-2 it flies much more sporty and can do a flip with half the height loss (in spite of the lower max power).
Now if a 10"-3 gives me the max power of the 11"-2 and the handling of 10"-2 that would be great.
For efficiency ecalc predicts a loss of 3 minutes out of my 34 minutes hower time, which is not too bad if the performance gains are what i expect.
It seems the bigger the prop, the smaller the efficiency losses because the blades are further apart and the lower rpms mean more time until one blade reaches the turbulence of the previous one. Also the hover RPM of 3 blades is lower helping here.
So it is clear that efficiency suffers more on small, high kv builds, but even there the handling gains seem worth it. So why dont we see 3-blades on larger general purpose copters? While hover time may decrease a bit, in dynamic flight the drag decreases and max flight distance improves again. I’m excited to try soon, I could be wrong.
If anybody has experience with 3-blade influence on filter parameters and thrust expo i would be very interested.
I think the “efficiency benefit” of 1- or 2-blade props vs. 3-blade is a misunderstanding. I had the same opinion for a long time, but now I think differently.
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2 or 3-blade props with the same diameter do not have a noticeable difference in efficiency. But, if your aim is to generate a specified maximum static thrust, then you will use a smaller 3-blade prop and a larger 2-blade prop (as these will generate the same amount of static thrust at a certain input power).
Naturally, the larger 2-blade prop will have a higher efficiency (due to the decreased disc loading related to Froude efficiency).
To conclude:
At same diameters, there is hardly a difference in efficiency, but using 2-blade props instead of 3-blade allows to use larger diameters (at the same power input), and that gives you more efficiency.
Dr. Martin Hepperle, a pretty renowned aerodynamicist states the following:
[…] The Number of Blades has a small effect on the efficiency only. Usually a propeller with more blades will perform slightly better, as it distributes its power and thrust more evenly in its wake. But for a given power or thrust, more blades also mean more narrow blades with reduced chord length, so practical limits have to be considered here. The chord length can be increased while decreasing the diameter to keep the power consumption constant, but a diameter reduction is usually a bad idea in terms of efficiency, as long as the tip mach number or tip cavitation is not an issue. […]
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Keep in mind that the propellers need to be as light as possible for motors with a small diameter, otherwise the motors will not have enough torque to accelerate them. Some propellers from MasterAirscrew are awfully heavy. I had the best experience with very cheap 3-blade props from ABS, but they are not available anymore. And you can convert every folding prop to 3-blade when you mill your own hub from carbon.
You’ll also need to increase the D-term quite a lot On my .
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The unassuming propellers on your drone are marvels of engineering, silently generating the thrust that keeps your machine aloft. Choosing the right drone propellers goes beyond aesthetics; it significantly impacts performance, flight time, and even motor health. Let's delve into the technical details to pick the perfect prop for your drone.
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Propeller Sizing: Diameter and Disc Loading
- Diameter: Measured in inches, propeller diameter is directly related to the amount of air it can push. Larger diameters create more thrust but are also heavier and require more powerful motors. A common rule of thumb is that larger, heavier drones need larger propellers (think 6-inch props for a racing drone vs 2-inch props for a tiny whoop drone).
- Disc Loading: This refers to the ratio of the propeller's mass to the area of air it pushes (diameter squared). A higher disc loading indicates more mass per unit area, requiring more power from the motor for adequate thrust. Lighter weight props with a lower disc loading will be more responsive but may not provide enough thrust for heavier drones.
Propeller Pitch: Understanding the Angle of Attack
- Pitch: Imagine the propeller as a screw moving through air. Pitch is the distance a prop would theoretically travel forward in one revolution if it were moving through a solid medium. A higher pitch propeller "bites" more air with each rotation, generating more thrust but demanding more power from the motor. Lower pitch props offer faster acceleration and better maneuverability due to their lower drag, but with slightly less thrust. Pitch is usually denoted by a two-number system (e.g., 5x4), where the first number represents the pitch in inches and the second is the diameter in inches.
Balancing Performance: Thrust, Efficiency, and Flight Time
The ideal propeller will create enough thrust for your desired application while maximizing efficiency and flight time. Here's how these factors interplay:
- Thrust: Primarily determined by propeller diameter and pitch. Higher thrust allows for heavier payloads and more aggressive maneuvers, but comes at the cost of higher power consumption.
- Efficiency: The ratio of useful work (generating thrust) to electrical energy input. Lower pitch props tend to be more efficient, especially at lower throttle settings. However, a prop that's too low pitch might not provide enough thrust at higher throttle, forcing the motor to work harder and reducing efficiency overall.
- Flight Time: Directly linked to efficiency. Props that maximize efficiency will allow your drone to stay airborne for longer durations.
Additional Considerations for Fine-Tuning
- Material: Plastic propellers are the most common due to their affordability and decent performance. Carbon fiber propellers offer significant weight savings and improved durability for high-performance applications, but come at a higher price point.
- Number of Blades: More blades generally provide more stability and thrust due to increased air interaction. However, they also create more drag, reducing efficiency and top speed. Two-blade and three-blade propellers are the most common choices, with some racing drones opting for four or even five blades for maximum stability.
- Noise: Consider noise output, especially if you'll be flying in noise-restricted areas. Lower pitch props tend to be quieter due to their lower rotational speeds.
Choosing Drone Propellers according to payload:
In the context of drones, the payload refers to anything the drone is carrying besides its own weight. This can include a variety of items, depending on the purpose of the flight. Here's a breakdown of what falls under the umbrella of drone payload:
Common Payload Categories:
- Cargo: This is the most general term for anything the drone is transporting. It could be packages for delivery, supplies for remote locations, or even emergency medical equipment.
- Imaging Equipment: This includes cameras for aerial photography and videography, multispectral sensors for agricultural applications, or thermal imaging cameras for search and rescue operations.
- Scientific Instruments: Drones can be used to carry scientific instruments for tasks like air quality monitoring, weather data collection, or even wildlife observation.
- LiDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) Systems: These high-tech sensors create detailed 3D maps of the environment, used for surveying, construction planning, or archaeological research.
- Passenger Drones (Future): As drone technology continues to evolve, passenger payloads might become a reality, carrying people for short-distance transportation or scenic flights.
Additional Considerations:
- Weight: The weight of the payload is a crucial factor in choosing the right propellers and ensuring sufficient thrust for stable flight. Drone manufacturers specify maximum payload capacities for their models.
- Size and Shape: The size and shape of the payload can also affect the drone's flight characteristics. For example, a bulky object might create more drag compared to a streamlined package.
- Center of Gravity: The payload's position affects the drone's center of gravity, impacting its stability and maneuverability. It's important to ensure the payload is well-balanced and positioned according to the manufacturer's recommendations.
By understanding what constitutes a drone payload and its various considerations, you can make informed decisions about the type of drone and propellers needed for your specific application.
The Perfect Partnership: Propeller Selection and Its Impact on Motor Performance
The propeller and motor choices for your drone are intricately linked, forming the heart of your machine's ability to generate lift and fly. Selecting the wrong propeller for your motor can have significant consequences. Imagine a high-powered motor struggling to spin a large, high-pitch propeller – it would drain battery life quickly and potentially overheat the motor. Conversely, a small, low-pitch propeller on a powerful motor wouldn't provide enough thrust, hindering performance and flight time. For optimal performance, the propeller needs to be matched to the motor's KV rating (kilovolts per revolution). A higher KV motor spins faster and is suited for lower pitch propellers that require less torque to turn. Lower KV motors, with their slower rotational speeds, benefit from higher pitch propellers that demand more torque. In our next blog post, we'll delve deeper into motor selection based on drone size and payload capacity, helping you choose the perfect motor to power your ideal propeller selection for a truly optimized drone!
The Perfect Match: Balancing Efficiency and Thrust
Now, let's see how motor KV and propeller pitch work together:
- Lower KV Motors (KV-KV): These motors excel at efficiency with their slower, high-torque rotations. The ideal propeller partners for such motors would have a lower pitch (e.g., 4x4 or 5x4). This combination allows the motor to operate efficiently without straining, resulting in longer flight times – perfect for lightweight drones and agile maneuvers.
- Mid-Range KV Motors (KV-KV): These motors offer a good balance between efficiency and power output. They can handle propellers with a moderate pitch (e.g., 5x4.5 or 6x4.5), providing sufficient thrust for mid-range payloads (1kg to 2kg) without sacrificing too much flight time.
- High KV Motors (KV and Above): Designed for raw power, these motors are ideal for heavy payloads exceeding 2kg. They can handle high-pitch propellers (e.g., 7x5 or 8x5), generating the necessary thrust to lift heavier weights. However, be aware that high KV motors and high-pitch propellers can be less efficient, potentially reducing flight time.
Case Studies: Motor & Propeller Pairings for Payload Lifts (1kg - 3kg)
Choosing the ideal motor and propeller combination for your drone hinges on the weight it needs to carry (payload capacity). Here are 5 case studies showcasing effective motor-propeller pairings for different payload ranges (1kg - 3kg):
Case 1: Lightweight Payload & Agile Flight (Up to 1kg)
- Motor: Brushless Motor (around KV)
- Propeller: 5-inch diameter, 4x4 pitch (plastic or carbon fiber)
- Number of Blades: 2 or 3
- Reasoning: A motor with a moderate KV rating (around KV) offers a good balance between efficiency and power for lighter drones. A 5-inch propeller with a 4x4 pitch provides enough thrust for basic photography or light FPV racing with a payload under 1kg. Two or three blades can be chosen depending on the desired balance between agility (fewer blades) and stability (more blades).
Case 2: Mid-Range Payload & Extended Flight Time (1kg - 1.5kg)
- Motor: Brushless Motor (around KV)
- Propeller: 5.5-inch diameter, 5x4.5 pitch (plastic or carbon fiber)
- Number of Blades: 3
- Reasoning: A slightly larger motor with a higher KV rating (around KV) tackles the increased weight of a 1kg to 1.5kg payload. The 5.5-inch propeller with a 5x4.5 pitch offers a good compromise between thrust and efficiency for extended flight times. Three blades provide a good balance between stability and maneuverability for this payload range.
Case 3: Moderate Payload & Stable Filming (2kg)
- Motor: Brushless Motor (around KV)
- Propeller: 6-inch diameter, 6x5 pitch (carbon fiber)
- Number of Blades: 3 or 4
- Reasoning: For a heavier 2kg payload, a motor with a lower KV rating (around KV) provides the torque needed to spin a larger propeller efficiently. A 6-inch diameter propeller with a 6x5 pitch generates sufficient thrust for stable flight. Carbon fiber props are recommended for their lighter weight and improved efficiency compared to plastic at this size. Three or four blades can be considered depending on the desired stability for filming applications.
Case 4: Heavy Payload & Professional Applications (2.5kg)
- Motor: Brushless Motor (around KV)
- Propeller: 6.5-inch diameter, 7x5 pitch (carbon fiber)
- Number of Blades: 3 or 4
- Reasoning: Professional drones carrying heavy payloads (2.5kg) often require powerful motors. A motor with a lower KV rating (around KV) offers the torque needed to handle a larger 6.5-inch propeller with a high pitch (7x5) for adequate thrust. Carbon fiber props are essential for both weight savings and efficiency. Three or four blades can be considered depending on the specific application, prioritizing stability with four blades for heavy payloads.
Case 5: Extended Range & Light Payload (Up to 1kg)
- Motor: Brushless Motor (around KV)
- Propeller: 6-inch diameter, 5x4 pitch (carbon fiber)
- Number of Blades: 2
- Reasoning: For prioritizing extended flight time with a light payload (under 1kg), a lower KV motor (around KV) can be paired with a larger, more efficient propeller. A 6-inch diameter propeller with a lower pitch (5x4) creates less drag while offering enough thrust for a lightweight drone. Two blades further minimize drag, maximizing flight time at the expense of some agility.
Resources and Experimentation
- Manufacturer Recommendations: A great starting point, manufacturers often suggest compatible propellers for their specific drone models.
- Online Communities: Drone forums dedicated to your model can be a valuable resource for prop selection advice based on real-world experience.
- Consult an Expert: Drone shops or experienced flyers can provide valuable insights tailored to your specific needs.
Remember, experimentation is key! Start with small adjustments and test fly in a safe, open area. By understanding the technical aspects of propellers and experimenting within safe parameters, you'll be well on your way to selecting the perfect propellers to propel your drone to new heights!
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